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QUOTE(Verb @ Oct 9 2007, 10:49 AM) [snapback]418[/snapback] Good Morn'n circusmama. Upon reading the article you posted it was evident how to go about taking this persons advice. In my opinion there would be at least two ways to go about this. • set a time each day, say 2:00 pm, and write for three to four hours. • write for three to four hours each day during a 'block' of time, anytime. Of course, those two are the same thing just attacked from different viewpoints as in "when.” Supposing you could consciously choose a subject and stick to that one subject, expand on it, do any necessary research and actually know what you are talking about. Could you learn about a certain subject in three to four hours a day over say a two-year period? Sure, you would learn a lot but would you learn enough to be a so-called expert? That would depend on the subject. Motivating yourself is the question. You simply have to want to. If you can turn that 'want' into 'need' you will be on your way. It is the means to an end you are looking for. I think it still depends on the subject matter to a certain extent. If the subject is "quantum physics" and you have a hard time multiplying in your head or don't know what prime numbers are and why, three to four hours a day for two years will not get you anywhere. If the subject is a "video game" and you play for three to four hours a day for two years you will know it inside and out and probably be an 'expert' on that particular game. Subject matter does make a difference and your interest in the subject matter is what will make that difference. If you have a burning desire to play the piano you will sit and practice until your fingers are numb. If not, you will do what is necessary to become mediocre. If writing is your passion, you will be doing it all the time. Just as you write questions in this forum, you should be writing on a subject or group of subjects that interest you. Just as you posted the article above, you were surfing and reading HOW to do something of interest to you also. I have read in several places where folks here have said they like to fly by the seat of their pants (so to speak) and do whatever they like, when they like. That is fine and doing ones own thing is admirable up to a point. Deliberate practice however is going to take some structure, focus and desire to achieve whatever the final goal is, in your chosen field. Did I get way off subject? Looks like it... lol... just ramblings. Sorry. I woke up two hours early and it is too dark to go outside to have my coffee. Conclusion: Motivation = desire. What is your burning desire? If you truly want to reach that goal, then "deliberate practice" should become easier and very clear, in your mind. I think I wrote all the above to reach this final conclusion: • Choose your subject. • Work at it until you know the final equation. • Stay updated. • Keep your eye on the goal. Your motivation is whatever it takes to reach that final goal. Do you know what your goal is? Verb It may be simpler: it's about love. When you love your work, deliberate practice is always joyful. When you see how your love embraces others, empowers them, then the joy expands. Pretty soon, you're in this zen-like state where awareness itself is a delight. The root of everything is love. It flowers in beauty. Love, love everybody, love everything. With love in your heart, rocks talk to you, children share secrets, strangers smile, and the work you do in the world, an offspring of your deliberate effort, spreads sunshine. When there is love, there is no vanity or pride in your work, only gratitude. No effort is too much for one who loves, yet with love no effort is necessary. Love is invincible. It conquers everything. When you apply it to the work that moves you, everything you do will have a transcendent quality. Cheers, Sal |
| Forum: The newbie copywriters room · Post Preview: #464 · Replies: 14 · Views: 4,113 |
| Posted on: Oct 11 2007, 04:23 PM | |
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QUOTE(10cents @ Oct 11 2007, 03:09 AM) [snapback]448[/snapback] Ummnn, what do you think makes web copies follow the same format? It's like everybody is afraid to stand out and get noticed. Copywriters being creative, we'd expect most of them bucking the trend as the web really has no rules, like you said. The conservatism is because of fear of losing a paycheck. Of course, invention is always the source of new life and with the plasticity of formatting and integrating technologies on the internet, a creative outburst may very well result in astonishing financial rewards. Cheers, Sal |
| Forum: Copywriting · Post Preview: #462 · Replies: 9 · Views: 4,531 |
| Posted on: Oct 10 2007, 06:49 PM | |
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QUOTE(circusmama @ Oct 10 2007, 01:50 PM) [snapback]443[/snapback] I would think that good grammar is still important. It helps you sound intelligent, like you know what you're talking about. And that could make the difference between making a sale or not... While it is definitely persuasive to write like you speak, there is a growing trend online to sound like you flunked out of high school. Since this kind of writing persists, often by people who you know, based on listening to their visual-audio interviews elsewhere online, don't actually talk that way, it makes one wonder if there is a positive market-response to ungrammatical, cliche-ridden, syntax-deprived emails or sales letters. My own response is pretty much like Stephanie's -- if they sound like they've been raised by wolves, should I trust their recommendations? Speaking properly and writing well has become increasingly unpopular. I would think that any culture would thrive on the quality of articulate, clear, and well-presented communication ... and that would be encouraged, but that is not what I'm observing. True, you don't have to be a puritan about it. A few dashes -- bullets -- dots ... and one or two sentences where subject, verb, and object are missing are fine. So are one word paragraphs! These add a certain zest. What I find rather bewildering is to assume that everybody comes from Texas or the outbacks of Australia and knows what you're talking about when you break into a new variation on English. This trend of speaking in a fluent vernacular appears to be confined to Americans and Australians. I'm not detecting many British writers breaking into pure cockney. It is amusing, however, to find that many copywriters from Singapore now sound as if they were raised in Arkansas. Does anybody have a clue what is going on here? Am I a closet purist, after all, lusting for the eloquence of bygone eras where rhetoric in print and eloquence on screen were the norm? Cheers, Sal |
| Forum: The newbie copywriters room · Post Preview: #445 · Replies: 10 · Views: 5,665 |
| Posted on: Oct 10 2007, 06:20 PM | |
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QUOTE(10cents @ Oct 10 2007, 01:47 AM) [snapback]433[/snapback] Hi! Is there a difference between copywriting for print and the web aside from the media? Magazines are attractively done with lots of images (which can really say more than a thousand words) whereas most web pages I've seen related to copywriting are bland. Thanks. Yes, the architecture of persuasion is different because of the space and the options allowed by different mediums. Hence, direct mail, a print ad, and online ads are all different. Web pages that are bland are a stylistic choice. It is just as possible to have more graphics and multimedia options. Really, there are no set rules. Most copywriting standards are established by what has worked well in the past. There is no reason why new techniques cannot be invented and tested. Cheers, Sal |
| Forum: Copywriting · Post Preview: #444 · Replies: 9 · Views: 4,531 |
| Posted on: Oct 7 2007, 04:05 PM | |
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QUOTE(circusmama @ Oct 7 2007, 01:41 AM) [snapback]385[/snapback] Wow. I did not know that people would actually offer as ridiculously low price as that. Do they actually think they'll get quality writers that way? Or maybe they just want someone to throw in the search terms as many times as possible... The reason they get away with it is because they can get away with it. People accept these jobs, either because they are writing from somewhere where a dollar is actually worth something or because they are desperate to be recognized as writers. As for the quality, you've pretty much figured that one out. |
| Forum: SEO Copywriting and SEO tips. · Post Preview: #389 · Replies: 27 · Views: 7,551 |
| Posted on: Oct 7 2007, 03:58 PM | |
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QUOTE(circusmama @ Oct 7 2007, 01:44 AM) [snapback]386[/snapback] Do you think it's worth it to make your own website? If you do have a website already, how did you design it? What costs were involved and what information did you decide to include? In answer to your first question, it is worth it. And the reason it is worth it has already been answered when you said, "I can see how it would be useful, as you could include samples of your work and details of your business." The costs were simply the hosting fees and the time I spent in putting it together. I designed it the way I would if I had a brochure that described my business. Except, of course, with a website, you can add dimensions that a humble brochure simply cannot accomodate. |
| Forum: The newbie copywriters room · Post Preview: #388 · Replies: 18 · Views: 5,778 |
| Posted on: Oct 7 2007, 03:51 PM | |
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QUOTE(jimscreechy @ Oct 5 2007, 03:27 PM) [snapback]368[/snapback] I got into Copywriting because I wanted a career change. I wanted to do something I enjoyed most of all and came naturally to me. I believe a good Copywriter must be highly imaginative and maybe even borderline nutty. He/She must absolutely love the power of the written word and enjoy the process. Truer words were never spoken about copywriting! In a few words, using only the power of plain language, you have defined the essence of what makes copywriting so seductive for all of us. We wordsmiths have always lusted for a media that rewarded our passion, unleashed our repressed creative spirit, and rewarded us with financial bounty. When we found copywriting, where we could tell a story, talk in a natural way, and describe the hidden facets of a product or service, we found the ecstasy of self-expression. |
| Forum: Copywriting · Post Preview: #387 · Replies: 21 · Views: 7,703 |
| Posted on: Oct 6 2007, 07:44 PM | |
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QUOTE(katharina @ Sep 24 2007, 09:21 PM) [snapback]219[/snapback] I don't do SEO, but the bidding sites are really the only places I've seen to find jobs in that category. SEO writing from those sites usually has devilishly low pay, though. While there is a huge demand for SEO articles, most of the places where people are looking to hire you offer insultingly low compensation. It makes my blood boil when I see ads in forums offering to pay writers between $1.50 to $4.00 an article. I have to push away from the computer because my initial impulse is to start a flame war and inform these capitalistic sociopaths what I think of their ruthless exploitation of writers. The best places to look for work in this field are high quality membership websites for marketers like the warriors forum. Avoid low-end forums with as much passion as you would seedy looking bars. Also, get your money before you deliver service, because you face the risk of not getting paid at all -- unless the forum has some authority to arbitrate for you. |
| Forum: SEO Copywriting and SEO tips. · Post Preview: #383 · Replies: 27 · Views: 7,551 |
| Posted on: Oct 6 2007, 07:35 PM | |
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QUOTE(katharina @ Oct 5 2007, 06:52 PM) [snapback]378[/snapback] Sometimes this is better than a phone call, yes. A lot of people need to see something tangible on paper. It's much too easy to say a quick "sorry, not interested" when it's a phone call. Katharina, you have started a very thoughtful thread, and I found Stephanie and Eileen's comments enlightening. I hope this thread continues as it asks a really important question. I think I'll give guru.com a shot. In answer to your question, most of my work has been accidental, with people hearing about me, but I'd like to start a marketing campaign that I can rely on for a steady flow of clients. I did build a website, and I'm in the process of refining it, but it hasn't done much for me yet. Hopefully that will change soon. All of you are awesome. I'm enjoying reading your various posts. Cheers, Sal |
| Forum: The newbie copywriters room · Post Preview: #382 · Replies: 10 · Views: 4,781 |
| Posted on: Oct 6 2007, 07:25 PM | |
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QUOTE(katharina @ Oct 5 2007, 07:05 PM) [snapback]379[/snapback] I'm not sure that some of the big mega-companies even realize how much power the bloggers have. I've never understood how they could think that ignoring it (controversy) will make it go away. Has it EVER gone away? Not that I can recall... once something negative hits the mainstream media, there's no hiding from it. With all research, there is no absolute proof, only debate. The BE may actually fulfill their promise. Who did the research that negated the original research and how objective was it? I find it hard to believe that the BE videos were made on the basis of fabricated evidence that they actually worked, and even harder to believe that they gained popularity only because of a powerful marketing machine behind them, without any genuine testimonials to support the claims. As a copywriter, if after your research you find that the product is based on deliberate falsification of data, of course you should not promote it. You don't want to add momentum to a campaign to promote deception. Alternatively, you may find the debacle has been created by biased media with their own agenda; in which case, if you, yourself, are convinced that the BE videos do what they promise, than your copy can work on debunking the detractors and defending the original research. A copywriter who is sincere is the best copywriter anyone can hope to hire. Their copy will have the ring of truth to it. It will sell the product because it wins trust. Cheers, Sal |
| Forum: Copywriting · Post Preview: #381 · Replies: 9 · Views: 4,537 |
| Posted on: Oct 3 2007, 02:17 PM | |
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QUOTE(Verb @ Oct 3 2007, 04:16 AM) [snapback]350[/snapback] Hiya Sal and All. You have probably worked on the webpages until you are blue in the face. I know that feeling. We have all been there, done that. At least a lot of us have. There is that rush, urgency and above all, wanting and needing to present our very best to the public. It can become a long and arduous task. Maintenance come into play once you are up and running and the google bot has gobbled up your pages, indexed them and placed them somewhere in with 100,000 or a million other web sites. At this point you find out exactly how much more work you have to do, and sometimes it is extensive. DO NOT get discouraged. It will all come around in time. Keep us posted. I am sure there are others here with better advice than I can give, but at least I am willing, when I have the time. BLessings. Verb Thanks Verb. I'm planning on a complete overhaul. I'll let you know when it's done. |
| Forum: Copywriting critiques · Post Preview: #352 · Replies: 22 · Views: 11,115 |
| Posted on: Oct 2 2007, 08:12 PM | |
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QUOTE(katharina @ Sep 27 2007, 05:15 PM) [snapback]295[/snapback] I think that is *so* important. I hope that as I get more into copywriting, my clients will feel the same way. I'm so turned off by copy that all sounds the same and it's very obvious where it's going. I think you're right, and people want to feel as if you're talking to THEM and not a group of thousands of nondescript faces. I don't like feeling like "one of the gang" so I like copy to talk to ME. Interesting point. So how do you get that to happen? How do you write copy that makes the reader feel like you are talking just to them, and not the gang? Cheers, Sal |
| Forum: Off-topic · Post Preview: #347 · Replies: 14 · Views: 6,892 |
| Posted on: Oct 2 2007, 07:51 PM | |
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QUOTE(circusmama @ Oct 2 2007, 02:38 PM) [snapback]344[/snapback] My time to write is very limited (naptime and after bed hours) so I try to structure it as much as possible if I have a project I'm working on. For example, when writing an article, I'll research it and write it out, then let it sit overnight and edit the next day. I'll generally try to have several going at once. Next month, I'll be writing a novel (Nanowrimo) so I'll be dedicating my writing time to trying to get 2000 words a day, unedited. Then in a few months, I'll hopefully be able to work just on editing that novel. Yes, time does stretch when you're writing. By the way, what's a Nanowrimo? Does it bite, does it sing, and does it fly? It should be a fascinating novel. I like your idea of going for pure writing, then putting on your editor cap when its all done. Perfect way to write a book! My own approach is to make a list of everything I want to do, but I also let intuition decide whether I should go longer on one item on my list than another. If I'm too time-conscious it saps my creative effulgence, and if I'm oblivious of time, I focus on low-priority tasks and miss my meal ticket. So my left brain and right brain compromise on the scheduling and work flow. Cheers, Sal |
| Forum: Off-topic · Post Preview: #346 · Replies: 11 · Views: 4,548 |
| Posted on: Oct 2 2007, 07:40 PM | |
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QUOTE(Verb @ Oct 2 2007, 02:23 PM) [snapback]341[/snapback] Good Morning Sal and All. Q - "For example, do you think the "name your best price" idea works in real life? Does it lift up your heart or leave you dazed and confused?" A - No, this never works. People will "cheap it up" whenever they can keep money in their own pockets. You will lose out using that strategy. Sorry. Q - "Also, how do you get those nifty fill-in-the-blank online forms? I'd rather set up the Contact Us page that way." A - Find the form code here: http://www.w3c.org Q - "Do I make the process of ordering, paying, and receiving writing services clear? Is my way of doing it easy, convenient, and reasonable?" A - I did not get beyond the home page yet. Q - "If this were your website what would you do to improve it?" A - Why the sub-domain? Upon looking at the code, nothing is filled in - it is a template and somewhere you should be able to change all that to what you need. It is certainly not impossible to optimize but that does make it much, much harder. The pros and cons on sub domains are simple - if you are intending to optimize, don't use them. Special attention needs to be paid to each and every item for SEO and with a templated sub-domain that is not always possible. If you don't care about SEO, or don't want to hire an expert to work some magic, you should get your own url (domain name) and be sure your main subject keyword is in that url. Search until you find one that fits into the realm of your business. Upon checking - I see you own "the empowered soul" so that explains the sub-domain. But for copywriting? I would still get a unique url. All that said, if you are depending on email campaigns and linking strategies to drive traffic to the site and not on solid seo procedures, keep the sub-domain. lol. That's all I have, so far. Back to work. Just my humble comments and OH-pinions. Blessings. Verb Thanks! I'm going to be moving the website over to a full writing service website, and I'll put your suggestions to good use. Sal |
| Forum: Copywriting critiques · Post Preview: #345 · Replies: 22 · Views: 11,115 |
| Posted on: Sep 30 2007, 06:57 PM | |
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QUOTE(circusmama @ Sep 29 2007, 09:10 PM) [snapback]322[/snapback] I checked out the Guru site in depth, and found while they offer a limited amount of services for free, to get access to the majority of the listings you have to pay. I agree with you Katharina, I don't see the sense of paying to get a job. hireaghostwriter.com had a few listings, but I didn't see any copywriting ones. And Odesk seems to be mostly computer programming... This is a tough question. On one hand, website owners need to monetize on creating a medium where those offering work can meet with those who can supply work. This is why those who seek quality in either direction gravitate to these more exclusive domains. The main function of these websites is to keep the honor system in place...so that one does not pay for work that does not get delivered or one does not get work that is not paid for. Free website job boards don't really invest in creating harmony between employers and employees. In freelancing work, it's a jungle and paid sites act like local authorities that you can rely on to keep things running fairly. On the other hand, both Katharina and Stephanie are absolutely correct, one should not have to pay to go to work, especially so since you are going to work because you need the money. What makes it even worse is that you are charged on a regular basis to keep your membership going, and it may be a while before you see any return on your investment. With the fierce competion, it's possible not to get a single job despite how long you've been advertising there. My own take on paying for a membership is that one should consider it the equivalent of the money you pay to go to a regular brick-and-mortar job. You have to pay to have a decent wardrobe and you have to pay to put gas in the tank to go to work. For freelancers, you have to pay to get other people to notice you. Once you develop enough work and enough repeat clientele, you don't have to pay again to get attention. Another strategy to get clients is to put up a website and drive traffic to it. While you don't have to pay money for this, unless of course you do PPC advertising, you do have to spend lots of time cultivating JV's, writing articles that drive traffic to your website, and other free methods. The basic question, then, is not whether you should pay or not pay money to get work. It is what is the most cost-effective way for you to begin building a reputation for yourself as a copywriter. For some people, it pays to spend money. For other people, it pays to spend time. No doubt the debate could waver on each side, with neither side wrong, and ultimately it depends on discovering the best strategy to create a regular and dependable income when you are a free soul. Really, there is nothing nobler than being a free soul, one not bound by the invisible chains of some corporate entity that decides when you can eat, rest, or go to the bathroom. There is something wonderful to being free, yet how does one manage it? There is a price to pay for it, and since you are a free soul, it is up to you to decide on the price. Cheers, Sal |
| Forum: Copywriting · Post Preview: #326 · Replies: 22 · Views: 8,150 |
| Posted on: Sep 30 2007, 06:22 PM | |
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QUOTE(circusmama @ Sep 28 2007, 10:51 PM) [snapback]311[/snapback] I just looked at your website again Sal, and it looks great! You've made a lot of excellent changes, and I especially love the testimonials at the bottom of the home page. I hope that you get a lot of new business! Well, it looks good because I followed your suggestions. One of them was particularly useful, where you suggested I break my long sales page into a series of sub-sections. It not only gave my website a fuller look but it also made things much clearer for the visitor. The testimonials really helped boost business, and I'm keen to collect more. Since some of my most recent writings have been repeat business, this aspect of the website has still to evolve. |
| Forum: Copywriting critiques · Post Preview: #325 · Replies: 22 · Views: 11,115 |
| Posted on: Sep 29 2007, 02:55 PM | |
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QUOTE(circusmama @ Sep 28 2007, 10:54 PM) [snapback]312[/snapback] I guess I would agree with the first name thing if the people who you're emailing don't know you, but all these people signed up for emails from you at one time, right? In that case, I would say first name would be okay. Well, since they fill in an opt-in form, they are the ones who give you their first name. There is no digging around involved. My experience has been that most people don't like it if you use their first and last name or just their last name...it's too formal, and they think you're stiff and unfriendly. I personally like it when somebody uses my first name in an e-mail. I think I've about given up on writing perfect emails. There may be no such thing! I can't seem to find one architecture for email that does better than any other. Some of my best written emails get no sales. Some emails that I threw together in a hurry get sales. I'd be interested in knowing if any one has found a way to write emails that consistently works. |
| Forum: Copywriting critiques · Post Preview: #321 · Replies: 11 · Views: 6,489 |
| Posted on: Sep 29 2007, 02:41 PM | |
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QUOTE(katharina @ Sep 28 2007, 10:58 AM) [snapback]309[/snapback] These are some fabulous tips you have here, Verb... and thank you for posting them! I just may have to check into starting a *real* blog. The thing I have is something I had to open to be able to read a few blogs of friends in that community. Once in a while I toss a few words there so that I stay current. Hi Katharina, Maybe you should start a blog here. Just click on My Blog...and get started. You've already got one reader. Sal |
| Forum: The newbie copywriters room · Post Preview: #320 · Replies: 14 · Views: 4,834 |
| Posted on: Sep 28 2007, 03:09 AM | |
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QUOTE(sal @ Sep 28 2007, 03:06 AM) [snapback]304[/snapback] This is a stunning point, Stephanie! Thus, for an auditory product like an iPod, you know that they're auditory submodality is most dominant, so you would use words like, "listen," "hear," and "say." Similarly, if it were a surf-board, you'd use language that appeals to a kinesthetic submodality. You'd talk about how they can "get a grip" and about "how they feel" about it. Kinesthetic submodality And, for an art piece, you could talk about the ravishing new look, the bright, splashy, colors, and so on to tap into their visual submodality. This, indeed, is a great idea...let the product tell you about the dominant submodality of the target audience and paint a word picture around it. Cheers, Sal |
| Forum: Copywriting · Post Preview: #305 · Replies: 11 · Views: 6,819 |
| Posted on: Sep 28 2007, 03:06 AM | |
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QUOTE(circusmama @ Sep 27 2007, 07:33 PM) [snapback]296[/snapback] So, if you're writing an ad, for example, say, an Ipod, would you want to write it in a way that's more auditory? And if so, how would you do that? This is a stunning point, Stephanie! Thus, for an auditory product like an iPod, you know that they're auditory submodality is most dominant, so you would use words like, "listen," "hear," and "say." Similarly, if it were a surf-board, you'd use language that appeals to a kinesthetic submodality. You'd talk about how they can "get a grip" and about "how they feel" about it. Kinesthetic submodality And, for an art piece, you could talk about the ravishing new look, the bright, splashy, colors, and so on to tap into their visual submodality. This, indeed, is a great idea...let the product tell you about the dominant submodality of the target audience and paint a word picture around it. Cheers, Sal |
| Forum: Copywriting · Post Preview: #304 · Replies: 11 · Views: 6,819 |
| Posted on: Sep 28 2007, 01:48 AM | |
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QUOTE(katharina @ Sep 27 2007, 04:50 PM) [snapback]293[/snapback] Okay, I'm back. I like your writing process page. It's no-nonsense and it doesn't leave room for people to whine about your terms not being clear because they're very clear. In the last paragraph, I think I'd change the term "good" copy to "successful" copy. Maybe it's just me, but "good" wasn't strong enough for my taste. The pricing page... well, while it seems like a really great test, I think I'd be kind of nervous. Like if I'd normally charge $500 for something and I'm offered $400, would I take it and hope someone ELSE will offer $600 to make up for it? No, that's not saying I wouldn't do it, it's very intriguing. I'll be interested to find out how many offers are higher than you may have charged. Remember that some people have *no* idea what a good copywriter costs, though, so may back away rather than make an embarrassing offer? Would it benefit you to (just thinking aloud here) list a low-ball offer to at least help guide the folks who haven't a clue what your work is worth? Contact page looks good. About Us page... I'm curious about why you've capitalized "Copywriting"... I'm sure there's a reason for that, but I don't know what it is at this point, so I thought I'd mention it. Okay, that's it... looks fabulous. *DO* remember to fix your copyright notice, though... seriously, if I'd hit your page and see the 2004, I'd assume you're no longer in business if you didn't update the notice for three years and I wouldn't take the time to send an email to find out... so that one's vital. Good luck! Thanks for the feedback. I was not able to change the copywrite notice because that was when I got the domain--however, I've got a javascript date script with todays date to tell the reader the website is current as they scan the home page. Also, I was not able to change 'good' to 'successful'--as that was the word choice of the customer and I don't want to tamper with the testimonial. Thanks for catching the typo on about us page. I've corrected it to show a small c. As for the pricing model, I'm thinking of just making a list of prices. The test did not prove successful, with most people choosing to underpay. I'll be changing that page soon once I start a marketing plan to get traffic to that page. Most people who want copywriting services don't have a clue where to start negotiating so the idea did not work at all. I'm also planning on putting up some samples of "before" and "after" copy--and I've contacted a few clients offering them a huge discount if they let me showcase their website copy. I appreciate your encouragement on this project. Cheers, Sal |
| Forum: Copywriting critiques · Post Preview: #303 · Replies: 22 · Views: 11,115 |
| Posted on: Sep 28 2007, 01:17 AM | |
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QUOTE(Verb @ Sep 26 2007, 06:06 PM) [snapback]269[/snapback] Hi to All. Give your blog here a little time. They rotate with others on the home page. You also need to give google a chance to index your blog and entries. Keep blogging and posting. Be sure to add links to your sites or to places you need additional traffic. Of course, links should have relevance. It will all come out in the wash. Be specific with your topics and stay on subject. After saying that I must admit I don't always stay on topic OR subject with any of my blogging efforts. It happens. Blogs should be personal to a certain extent so do try to keep your writing personal as much as possible. Too "polished" looks like an AD of some kind to a lot of readers/surfers and they blip out before getting past a few paragraphs. Don't be afraid to write your own experiences, whether they be about surfing around or your own copywriting anecdotes. Give sound advise when you feel you have something to offer. My blog here only has six entries as I try not to blog about "nothing." Always keep "relevance" in mind and you will be on the right track. When the "wash" comes out, you will be surprised how wonderful it smells. Like success. Hope this helps. Blessings. Verb Yes, I'm pretty much doing it this way. All my blog posts have been spontaneous outbursts of what was going on that day. I don't have a theme, really, and no idea what I'll write about the next day. While I do keyword research on an article and make sure I SEO it before sending it to either my client or to an article directory (if its for one of my own website promotions), I'm reluctant to do it with the blog--even though this will trigger some traffic. The way I'm approaching the blog is to do writing practice and I try to tie it in with copywriting because that is my interest. Cheers, Sal |
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QUOTE(katharina @ Sep 26 2007, 06:44 PM) [snapback]277[/snapback] I have found that I have much more writing to do in the fall and winter. I'm thinking it's because they are my favorite months and I just enjoy it more then but it *may* be that more clients are looking for workers then... anyone else notice a slow-down in available work during the summer months? No, it seems kind of steady all year round. Maybe it's because I've covered up my office window with a pretty wall tapestry to keep the sun out of my eyes...so I don't notice the seasons. I source almost all my work online, so it could just be the industry, too. Cheers, Sal |
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QUOTE(MarkS @ Sep 26 2007, 07:47 PM) [snapback]278[/snapback] Yeah, fiction is definitely an acquired taste! There is so much to write about in the world. And, as you imply WildHoney, the truth definitely is stranger than fiction. And yes, the middle of a novel is really hard to get through. Stories are easier. Just keep in mind, Scene then Summary, Scene then Summary. That's all it really is. For fun, if you have the inclination, you can also try out the month long novel writing sprint at nanowrimo.org. They do it every year. I did it once, but it's pretty time consuming. It's kind of funny. I make more a week in copywriting than I did for a year of sales on my novel, "A Courage To Dream," which then went out of print. As a magazine writer, I averaged about $250 to $500 a week, although some magazines are so cheap they only offer you some free copies. Fiction writing is fine and fun. As is article writing for magazine. However, copywriting is the only field that really pays. Those writers who make millions, do so because they have an excellent marketing campaign and huge name recognition. Katharina--you have the most interesting posts. Hope you'll start a blog here soon so I can read more of your writings. Cheers, Sal |
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QUOTE(katharina @ Sep 24 2007, 09:14 PM) [snapback]217[/snapback] This sounds like a very good place to start. I'm getting an Amazon order together this week anyhow, so I think I'll add this book. I'll also watch here for other recommendations. I've been using up most of my time for actual writing but I think it would be beneficial to get some new perspectives. Yes, it will definitely give you a good grasp of how copywriting is different from other kinds of writing. I'd love to hear your opinion once you've read it. Cheers, Sal |
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