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> Terrible Copywriting, A solution I found to my terrible copywriting

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Jennifer B
post Jun 20 2007, 03:24 PM
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Hi,

If you want to make it on the Internet you need copywriting skills, right?

Well, I am terrible.

I have tried in different ways.

But every time it's the same problem... I sit down in front of the PC to write and writer's block sets in.

I am so used to copying text from other people and expressing them in another language (as a translator that's what I do) that I felt I couldn't create anything new, something I could call my own... and then, 2 things happened:

1) I found copywriting.com, which has helped me a lot with useful tips (thanks Miguel)

2) I read a recent blog entry by Joe Vitale about how he (master copywriter, by the way) sometimes has nothing to say and then ends up saying a lot, and even brilliant things. (Click here to see the blog entry)

I decided to follow his advice, and out of nothing to say, this came out.

If anybody can think of other strategies to improve my writing, please let me know... will ya? smile.gif

Best regards,

Jennifer
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katharina
post Sep 26 2007, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE(Wildhoney @ Sep 26 2007, 10:42 AM) [snapback]263[/snapback]
A change of scenery does really help. I myself do copywriting, but I do not write books. I, did, however date a girl that wrote a lot of books and poems. We would often take an adventure into the hills or by a lake - she remarked on numerous occasions how it helped her think much clearer about what she wanted to say exactly. I couldn't have agreed more, but for me it was just a lovely day out!


I'd think that scenery would be a fabulous way to write some really nice
poetry, yes. Getting outside can usually get me in the mood to write when
I return, too... and it will soon be too cold and icy to "head for the hills" so
I'd better get some done soon!
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post Sep 26 2007, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE(katharina @ Sep 26 2007, 07:38 AM) [snapback]257[/snapback]
I've heard of this before and I can see how it might work, yes. Some changes of scenery work
great for me but some don't. One of the places that doesn't work for me is while I'm on vacation.
Even if it's just a few hours with nothing else to do, I just can't seem to write while on vacation.


Oh no! We're going on vacation soon and I was hoping to get some writing done (14 hours in the car, woo-hoo!) I hope that I don't have that problem.

Within the house, I have found it helpful to change places every once in a while. Also, if I'm stuck on character description, I always find it useful to go to the mall. You can always find characters there!
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post Sep 27 2007, 06:30 AM
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Some types of project just kind of write themselves because you know what the people want to say, and all they want is for you to say it with pizzaz and good grammer.

When something with a little substance to it needs to be written (besides, as I mentioned earlier) finding reading about the subject to peak a little interest toward it, I sometimes just kind of put the subject in my mind, let it incubate, and write when its ready to hatch. Then it seems as if all I have to do is "put my mind on print", and there it is.

Using the incubating method frequently can create the impression of never having much writer's block, but really its just a matter of not trying to write prematurely.
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post Sep 27 2007, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(LisaW @ Sep 27 2007, 02:30 AM) [snapback]285[/snapback]
When something with a little substance to it needs to be written (besides, as I mentioned earlier) finding reading about the subject to peak a little interest toward it, I sometimes just kind of put the subject in my mind, let it incubate, and write when its ready to hatch. Then it seems as if all I have to do is "put my mind on print", and there it is.

Using the incubating method frequently can create the impression of never having much writer's block, but really its just a matter of not trying to write prematurely.


I've tried the incubating method before, but I find when I have a good idea, I have to write it down right away, or it will go "poof" in the next five minutes. My short term memory just doesn't work like it used to! smile.gif
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post Sep 27 2007, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(circusmama @ Sep 26 2007, 02:15 PM) [snapback]270[/snapback]
Oh no! We're going on vacation soon and I was hoping to get some writing done (14 hours in the car, woo-hoo!) I hope that I don't have that problem.


So are we... on a very long road trip in three weeks. I'll be taking some things along
in case I want to write in the hotel rooms along the way but I doubt very much that it
will happen. I can't write while moving in the car, though... I'd hate to have a headache
for the whole vacation.
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post Oct 14 2007, 11:04 AM
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All this information shared so generously - great forum. And the advice to start something, anything, just to get as it were a foot in the door (I'm a Newbie here, but this of course applies to all writing, I'm sure of that) has to be right. What I've also found works is to get out of wherever, go for a walk (I've had a character or plot difficulty in a novel which I've gone round in circles trying to resolve, and then, when on the move, my thoughts drifting elsewhere because I'm on the move, out the answer has popped, as neatly as is I had just dropped a coin in the slot).
James Thurber, incidentally - that shamefully neglected writer - once said that all his first attempts resembled something out of a thir -year school project.
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post Dec 21 2009, 11:20 AM
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I think writers block is something that happens to any aspiring writer. Everyone seems to have a unique way of dealing with it, which is good. I have had many times where i was handling an assignment and dint have the psyke to pull through. I think a good way of dealing with it is to be a tad bit scientific in your approach to writing.
- Doing the research
-Jotting down a few points from the research
-A few sub-points on main points
-Putting these points down in readable, conversational tone
It might sound ridiculous but it could help get over those dark writing days.

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post Jan 4 2010, 05:38 PM
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Hi Jennifer,

When I face writer's block (and I still do though I've been a fully freelance copywriter for 12 years), I think of the message I want to get across. This helps me boil down the writing to the essence of what needs to be said. Once you locate that essence, even if first you write it in informal English (the way you'd describe your brand or topic to a person in conversation), then you can build the piece around it. The five W's technique often works (who, what, where, what, why). So does thinking of the feeling you want to evoke in the reader. After all, copywriting is communication (and often on subliminal level). When you keep your message and reader in mind, and when you have command and practice in writing in the language at hand, the words will flow. An additional tip: sometimes lying down and writing is more relaxing than actually sitting as it relieves nervousness and gets you in a half-dream state, thus getting past your inhibitions.

QUOTE (Jennifer B @ Jun 20 2007, 06:24 PM) *
Hi,

If you want to make it on the Internet you need copywriting skills, right?

Well, I am terrible.

I have tried in different ways.

But every time it's the same problem... I sit down in front of the PC to write and writer's block sets in.

I am so used to copying text from other people and expressing them in another language (as a translator that's what I do) that I felt I couldn't create anything new, something I could call my own... and then, 2 things happened:

1) I found copywriting.com, which has helped me a lot with useful tips (thanks Miguel)

2) I read a recent blog entry by Joe Vitale about how he (master copywriter, by the way) sometimes has nothing to say and then ends up saying a lot, and even brilliant things. (Click here to see the blog entry)

I decided to follow his advice, and out of nothing to say, this came out.

If anybody can think of other strategies to improve my writing, please let me know... will ya? smile.gif

Best regards,

Jennifer


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QUOTE (Wildhoney @ Sep 26 2007, 03:42 PM) *
We would often take an adventure into the hills or by a lake


Yes, a trip to the hills with the right company can really open things up..

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